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Only.me80 #9: MacArthur 4B (Reversing God's Word)

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Here is footnote #4B (part 9 of the whole series inspired by Only.me80's comment) on John MacArthur's sermon about Limited Atonement, quoted in  part 4 .   (Also see  part 1 ...  part 2 ...   part 3 ...  part 5 ...  part 6 ...  part 7 ... and part 8   of this series .) Picking up where we left off...   B.  Likewise, Calvinists say  that the Calv-elect are counted/included in Christ from before the beginning of the world and that they get the Holy Spirit before they believe, to make them believe...  but the Bible says  that we are counted/included in Christ and get the Holy Spirit after we believe, as a result of belief.   Eph. 1:13:  "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.  Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit."   Acts 2:38 :   "...'Repent and be baptized ... And you will receive t...

White horses and a cup of tea (part 3)

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[I'm working my way through this slowly.  Click here for  part 1  and  part 2  of this series.  This isn't really related to Calvinism (but there is a touch of it in here).  It's just personal.]  First, here's The White Horse Parable again (my version): A man and his son owned a field that they farmed for a living.  And one day, they found a white horse in the field. "Oh, what a blessing," said the farmer.  "A free horse." But then the horse started tearing up their plants.   "Oh, this is terrible.  What a curse!" cried the farmer.   But then they caught the horse and tamed it and were able to use it to farm the field. "Oh, what a blessing," said the farmer. But then the son was thrown off the horse, broke both arms, and couldn't farm for months, reducing their sales and income. "Oh, what a curse," said the farmer. "I wish this horse never came to us.  Why, God?  Why!?!" But then a war started, and the ...