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Only.me80 #9: MacArthur 4B (Reversing God's Word)

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Here is footnote #4B (part 9 of the whole series inspired by Only.me80's comment) on John MacArthur's sermon about Limited Atonement, quoted in  part 4 .   (Also see  part 1 ...  part 2 ...   part 3 ...  part 5 ...  part 6 ...  part 7 ... and part 8   of this series .) Picking up where we left off...   B.  Likewise, Calvinists say  that the Calv-elect are counted/included in Christ from before the beginning of the world and that they get the Holy Spirit before they believe, to make them believe...  but the Bible says  that we are counted/included in Christ and get the Holy Spirit after we believe, as a result of belief.   Eph. 1:13:  "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation.  Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit."   Acts 2:38 :   "...'Repent and be baptized ... And you will receive t...

Only.me80 #8: MacArthur 4A (Reversing God's Word)

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Here is footnote #4A (part 8 of the whole series inspired by Only.me80's comment) on John MacArthur's sermon about Limited Atonement, quoted in  part 4 .   (Also see  part 1 ...  part 2 ...   part 3 ...  part 5 ... part 6 ... and part 7 of this series .) *4.  MacArthur said: "...  God enables to believe those whom He has chosen... those who would believe because they were given life because they were chosen."   N otice the Calvinist order: First the Calv-elect are chosen for salvation, then given life, and then, lastly, they believe in Jesus.   And so, therefore, the Calv-elect are saved and born-again after  they were elected but  before  they believed in Jesus (born again so that they  could  believe in Jesus) - meaning that , in Calvinism, people are  saved by election ,  not  by faith in Jesus.   My ex-pastor,  October 2014:  "God elected, God chose, God drew, God...

Only.me80 #6: Comments 1-2 on MacArthur's "Limited Atonement" Sermon

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Okay, so here are the first two footnotes (my additional comments) on the John MacArthur sermon I quoted in  part 4   of this series inspired by a comment from a Calvinist reader called Only.me80.   [Click here for  part 1  and  part 2  and  part 3  and part 5 of this series .] *1  MacArthur said:  "[An unlimited atonement and the free-will ability of humans to choose to believe in Jesus] is not what the church has historically believed ,  but that is what the present version of the superficial church believes" Notice the m anipulative-shaming, the accusation of "You're a 'superficial' Christian if you believe that Jesus died for all people and that we choose to accept or reject the gift of eternal life." (paraphrase)   Which is, apparently,  "most people in the church."   According to special, unique, high-and-mighty MacArthur, most of us Christians are "superficial" because most of us Christians beli...