A Calvinist pastor's 9-11 sermons (vs. C.S. Lewis)

With the anniversary of 9-11 approaching, I thought I'd once again interrupt the Alana L series, this time to share some quotes from my ex-pastor's sermons about 9-11 or around the anniversary of 9-11.  Enjoy!  (I've shared all these before, so skip them in you want to.)  

And I'm so sorry to share these.  (Please don't read them if you were greatly hurt by 9-11, or any other tragedy.)  But it's a great example of how hyper-focused Calvinists can be on God's "sovereignty" (hey, so maybe it does kinda fit with the Alana posts on "sovereignty"!😊), to the point that they can't even hear how heartless and tone-deaf they sound about a horrible tragedy that destroyed many people and families and that greatly wounded our country.  They can't even comprehend - or don't care about - the damage they might be doing to someone's faith in God.  All they can think about is that they are supposedly glorifying God by singing the praises of His "sovereign control" and encouraging others to do the same, regardless of the tragedy that happened.  (And they wonder why Calvinism makes people sick!)

[My comments are in brackets, black, and italics.]  


1. From his September 13, 2020 sermon (the anniversary weekend of 9-11) about God being in control (he doesn't directly talk about 9-11, but about all evils and tragedies in general): "No matter what is happening, we have a God who is all-powerful, who is good, and He knows exactly what He is doing in the world and in your life... God is in complete control of all world events, even - and this is critical - even when evil dictators arrive on the world stage... even those who work cruelty or genocide.  [Surely he's including those who carried out the 9-11 attacks.]  It is very clear that God is the one who gives them the very breath that they take every morning in order to reap their genocide or their carnage, as much as that may jolt us.  By virtue of the fact that God has created everything, He is the absolute owner and final disposer of all He has made.  [Just because God created people and gives evil people breath doesn't mean that He predestines, wants, controls, causes the evil they do.  Well, except in Calvinism, that is.]

... He exerts not merely a general influence but actually runs the world which He has created.  [I have no problem with the idea that God is over all things or that He incorporates evil into His plans.  I have a problem with the Calvinist idea that God predestines the evil and causes people to be/do evil, giving them no chance to be any other way.]  The Bible teaches that God has what we might call 'complete operational jurisdiction' over His entire creation, over nations, over kings, over emperors, over rulers, and over our lives... Indeed, our God is in heaven and He does whatever pleases Him.  [And so now Calvi-god is pleased to cause evil, tragedy, genocide, carnage.  Sick!  Tell me again, pastor, how Calvi-god is "good."  'Cuz I still don't get it.]

... [The doctrine of God's providence] is a huge source of comfort to the people of God because it is a regular reminder that whatever's going on in our lives, even if it's painful, it is being directed by an all-knowing, good, and loving, and wise heavenly Father, who does everything for His children out of His love. 

... If you have any doubt that God is in absolute sovereign control over all things, if you have any doubt that He has complete operational jurisdiction over His universe, just notice how many times God says 'I will do this' or 'I will do that' [in Jeremiah 24:6-10].  [So because God has plans (in Jeremiah) and does certain things means, in Calvinism, that everything happens because He planned it and caused it.  So, in Calvinism, if all monkeys are animals, it must mean that all animals are monkeys, right?😕]

... Truth #1 that should bring great comfort [that] whatever has happened to you or is going on right now in your life, a great comfort from Jeremiah 25 is that God is sovereign over nations, He is sovereign over rulers, He is sovereign over your life.  Nothing happens in the weather, nothing happens on the political stage, nothing happens in your life, in your marriage, in your family, in your finances, nothing, nothing, nothing that God does not have absolute operational jurisdiction over.  And that's a huge comfort to the people of God.  [Really!?!  Finding comfort in Calvi-god who first deliberately preplanned and caused the evils in your life, for his pleasure?]

... [Truth #2 is this:] The Puritans remind us that God often uses the ungodly, the evil, in order to specifically discipline, refine, chastise His saints, as much of a jolt as that may be to 21st century ears.  And if we don't see that...we will miss God's loving hand of providence in our lives, we will focus on the injustice of what happened, and we will end up moving in a direction that is extremely unhealthy spiritually, emotionally, and psychologically.  ["So don't think about how unjust it was that someone abused you or hurt you or that your spouse had an affair, but think about how loving Calvi-god was to ordain it in your life in the first place.  Comforting!"  

(Besides, if we move in that bad direction, isn't it because Calvi-god sovereignly ordained it?  And how can we stop what Calvi-god predestined and causes?😕)  

But I will agree that God sometimes uses unpleasant things in our lives.  But that doesn't always mean that He preplanned/wanted/caused it; it could just be that He allowed it.  And even though He might cause, say, a natural disaster, He does not preplan/want/cause evil or disobedience or sin.  Natural disasters do not violate commands He gave us, but sin does, and so He cannot predestine/cause sin without destroying His character and trustworthiness.  

And when it comes to "allowing" bad things, I think He sometimes allows bad things for a reason, but other times He simply allows them - with no "for a reason" attached, other than that He allows people a lot of freedom to make their own choices, even bad ones that hurt others.  (Personally, I think this is how it most often is, that bad things happen simply because He allowed us to make our own decisions or allowed nature to take its natural course, not necessarily because He wanted it to happen for a particular reason.)  

I think there's a lot more possibilities of what's behind the things that happen than Calvinism's "God preplanned and caused everything for a reason."  Calvinism has a very flat, 2-dimensional god that can only act in one way.  I guess he's not so complex, lofty, powerful, and mysterious after all, as Calvinism usually paints him.]  

Bottom line is this, how I respond to any mistreatment, how you respond to any mistreatment from anybody, righteous or unrighteous, my response shows my view of who God is...  And unless I humble myself and seek Him, I'm going to get bitter [by Calvi-god's decree, as predestined] and perhaps invite further discipline, if I don't understand what He's doing.  God sometimes uses unjust people to discipline, refine, and humble His saints in ways that, frankly, leave us baffled, may leave you baffled in your own life or watching a loved one or watching a child or watching a parent or a friend or neighbor or somebody else.  It's baffling, and it goes back to who is God and do we trust Him.  ["Shame on you for distrusting God by being upset about the evil and abuse He lovingly brought on you!  Shame, shame!"  And FYI: Calvi-god "uses" only what he first preplanned and causes.  That's what "uses" (and "allows") means.  First he plans it, then he causes it - allowing what he planned to happen, and only what he planned - and then he uses it.  Very deceptive (very Calvinist!), because that's not how most of us think of "use" and "allow."  (Remember this anytime you hear a Calvinist use these words.)]  

The third truth we learn here, which almost now will seem completely contrary [it seems completely contrary for a very good reason!], is that God will punish those who do the evil to us.  God will punish them.  The Bible serves us notice that no matter what God's Will might be for the decisions and choices of others and how those choices impact our lives, that in the end, all human beings are accountable for their moral choices and what they do to other people.  [Notice that they're "moral" choices - about moral issues - but they're just not "free" choices.]

... This is where this sermon starts getting really, really weird... And by the way, this is a very sanitized presentation of what Nebuchadnezzar did.  You gotta think of something like the Nazis, Isis.  This is a brutal invasion...slaughter...pillaging, destruction, killing ["flying planes into towers"]...and who did it!?!... God says three times 'He's my servant and he's doing exactly what I ordained him to do.'

...The mysterious providences of God.  There are times when after studying a [Bible] passage, you will look up and have a bit of a headache... It is God's Will, in verse 9, for Nebuchadnezzar to attack, pillage, and enslave the people of Judah...but then in verse 12, it is God's Will to punish Nebuchadnezzar for enslaving and attacking His people.

... In other words, there are times when God will seem to will things in one direction...but then it will - and I'm going to use the word in quotes, because I don't understand it - it will 'appear' God wills something in the exact opposite direction simultaneously.  Here we come to something that [heretical] theologians throughout history call 'the two wills of God' [unbiblical!]... meaning that when God wills something on one level, He will appear to will its opposite on another level at the same exact time.  [So I guess the word "appears" fixes it all, making it all okay and logical and non-contradictory, huh?😕  But this is not that hard to understand, once you understand it correctly: Biblically, God allows people to be evil and then, if He chooses to, He can incorporate their self-chosen evilness into His plans, using it for good or for discipline or justice or whatever.  But He does not preplan/cause them to be evil or irresistibly do evil, as Calvinism thinks He does, which creates a huge theological mess and destroys God's righteous character.]    

An example of this is the doctrine of predestination.  In 1 Timothy, God desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.  But in Romans 9:18, the apostle Paul writes that God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy and hardens whom He wants to harden, in the context of they don't have salvation.  So in one level, it is God's Will for all people to be saved.  On another level, we're told at the same time that God chooses to have mercy on some and to pass over others and harden them.  [Romans 9 is not about the salvation of individuals!  But if you let Calvinists convince you it is, you will become a Calvinist!]  

... Do you find it strangely comforting that God's ways are mysterious?"  [Gaslighting: "It's good that you can't understand this, isn't it?  That you can't figure out why it's still good even though it sounds so terrible?  Trust me, it's good, even though it's not."]

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2. His September 12, 2021 sermon (the following year's anniversary sermon) about the devil being "God's devil," almost 20 years to the day of 9-11:

[Regarding a quote from a non-Calvinist pastor who, right after 9-11, said that "9-11 was of the devil, God had nothing to do with it":] "Why should a Christian cringe at that statement?  Because God had everything to do with 9-11.  If He didn't, then He's not God.  Period!  That doesn't mean that He's the one who instigated flying airplanes into buildings and all, but God signed the authorization papers!  

I was interviewed the morning of 9-11...and asked 'Where was God on 9-11?'... And I said something along the lines of 'Well, I guess He's in the same place He was on 9-10.  He's on the throne!  Let us never forget that God was not caught by surprise today.  He is the one orchestrating world events.  He gave life and breath to those 19 men who were murdering thugs.  He knew exactly what was going on.  He was directing the whole thing.'  

[Ugh, he said this publicly the very morning of 9-11!  (And they wonder why Calvinists have such a bad name!)  And notice how he's saying that if God didn't "orchestrate and direct" an evil like 9-11 then He can't be God, that for God to be God He must be directly behind all evils!?!😕😖  (And they wonder why people have such trouble with Calvinism!)

By saying "orchestrating and directing," he means that God preplanned, caused, controlled the whole thing.  And this contradicts his statement of "that doesn't mean that He's the one who instigated flying airplanes into buildings."  Calvinists do this all the time.  They first make it sound like they mean "God allows our evil choices," but then they slowly and strategically reel you into what they really believe: that God preplanned, caused, controlled, orchestrated, directed all evils.  So if a Calvinist sounds like they're teaching "free-will" at some point, just wait.  They will qualify, change, or adjust it later until it's not free-will at all, at least not in the way everyone but them defines "free."  (Note: Calvinist "Compatibilism" is one of their attempts at this, wrapping "meticulous divine determinism" up in "free-will" language.  But don't fall for it.  It's not "free" at all.)  

FYI: Biblically, God does orchestrate and direct things - but the difference is that He lets us choose first what we will do, whether we will obey or disobey, and then He works what we choose into His plans.  We are not forced to do what we do - we could've chosen otherwise - but He can work whatever we choose into His plans and bring good out of it.  But in Calvinism, God "orchestrates and directs" not by merely allowing and incorporating our free choices, but by preplanning, causing, controlling everything we choose - whether we obey or disobey, do evil or good - to work everything out exactly as He planned, and we had no option or ability to choose anything else.  These are very different Gods!  And One is still good and trustworthy and is big-enough and wise-enough to handle whatever we throw at Him, but the other isn't.)]

Satan carried it out.  Satan is accountable, those men are accountable... but they didn't do it somehow separate from God's authority or jurisdiction.  God signed the authorization papers!  Like it or hate it.  

God had everything to do with 9-11.  He has everything to do with any other tragedy.  God never, ever, ever tries to get Himself off the hook when it comes to worldwide tragedies.  He takes full credit for Noah's flood or any other major tragedy you see in life.  [For God to cause a flood that takes people's lives is far different than for God to, say, cause people to commit murder.  God doesn't have commands against floods (and He alone has the right to take life when He wants to), but He does have commands against murder.  And so it would be totally contradictory, two-faced, and unjust for Him to cause people to murder (and then to punish people for it), but not to cause a flood.  Natural disasters and moral evils are nowhere near the same thing.]  Because God wants you to know that He is the one running the show.  He is the one who signs the authorization papers for anything that happens on our planet.

... God uses wicked agents, people, to do His deliberate plan.  [It's biblical for God to "use" wickedness and to work our bad choices into His plans, but it's not biblical for God to "ordain/preplan/cause" wickedness and wicked desires, to give people no chance to choose anything else, and to then punish people for doing what He preplanned/caused them to do.  But that's what happens in Calvinism.]

... We often agonize over things like predestination and human accountability, but the Bible shows no tension whatsoever around predestination and human accountability [Sure, the Bible doesn't have tension with it.  The tension comes in when Calvinists misunderstand these things, when they create an unbiblical view of them.]

... How's that fit together?  I don't have a clue.  But there you have it.  God has a sovereign, divine plan that even includes how people respond and yet those people are still fully accountable.  [So he can't understand it and has no clue why or how this is true (apparently the Bible doesn't say)... and yet we're supposed to simply believe him and trust him to accurately teach biblical truth!?!  Why on earth would we get our biblical information from those who claim they can't even understand it or know why it's true!?!] 

... God has purposes for allowing and ordaining satanic and demonic conflict at times [In Calvinism, God "allows" only what He first preplanned and causes.]... And the point is that the devil is God's devil.  He exists, he functions, he operates, only under the authorization papers and sovereign hand of an all-powerful God who is using him for His ends and purposes..."  [Once again, "using" Satan's actions is one thing, but preplanning, causing, controlling Satan's actions is another.  As he said in July 23, 2023"The devil is God's devil... Everything Satan does is under God's sovereign power... Satan and his angels are exactly on schedule, doing exactly what God intended for them to do."] 

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3. His November 10, 2019 sermon about Job, about trusting God when He doesn't make sense in our times of confusion, pain, suffering, and uncertainty (he started this sermon with a true-life story of a young father who died early of cancer): "God is in full control of His universe, including suffering and tragedy... Too often when Bible-believing Christians in the west see tragedy, see calamity or experience it in their own lives, we want to immediately go to blaming Satan or his demons, that anything uncomfortable, anything painful, anything that smacks of suffering, uncertainty, betrayal, pain, misery, automatically comes only from Satan.

... As western evangelicals, our immediate default is to try to get God off the hook.  'God could not have been involved in that tsunami... in the events of 9-11... in my cancer... in the death of that child, and on and on.'... You may not like everything you hear this morning...but I'm not going to try to fix it up... I am supposed to get [it] accurate as the Author intended.  [Well, you've failed miserably!]

And Job is very clear that God is in full control of the universe, including suffering and tragedy.  And when I want to go to default and get God off the hook for suffering and tragedy, it's interesting that - in the Bible - God always puts Himself right back on the hook... He alone sends and withholds calamity... God is in full control of His universe, including suffering and tragedy.  And frankly, He's not interested in trying to get off the hook.

... God allows and appoints suffering for His own good reasons... What caused all of [Job's] tragic disasters?... God allows-slash-appoints tragic disasters.  These are really two sides of one coin.  Saying 'God allowed it' is too soft.  God clearly is orchestrating what is going on here... and He ordains suffering for His own good reasons.

... Why did all these horrible things happen to Job?... [Some Christians say] Satan alone caused these disasters...that God turned everything [in Job's life] over [to Satan]... But it's clear Satan is certainly behind these events, but he had to ask permission to touch Job, and it's God who signed the authorization papers.  That is a very key piece of theology a lot of people miss.  [No, it's a key piece that Calvinists get wrong.  Only in Calvinism is "allowing/signing the authorization papers" the same thing as "orchestrating, controlling, ordaining, appointing, etc."  But biblically, God did turn Job over to Satan, within boundaries.  Satan decided which disasters hit Job.  Satan caused them.  And God let it happen.  This is not "orchestrating," unless you're a Calvinist.  God can and does "orchestrate" how to incorporate into His plans what Satan and people choose to do, to work good out of it, but this doesn't mean He orchestrates what Satan and people do.  Two very different things!  "Causing all things to work together for good" is not the same thing as "causing all things."  Unless you're a Calvinist.]

... [After 9-11, one pastor said] 'Listen, God had nothing to do with 9-11.  Nothing!'... And I sat back and cringed, because what he was really offering theologically was far worse.  Why?  Because if God had nothing to do with 9-11, then where was He on 9-11?  [So Calvinists think it's better if God orchestrates - fully preplans and causes - all tragedies and evils than simply allows people to make evil decisions on their own.  Calvinists would rather have a God like that, convinced it somehow makes Him more trustworthy.  And notice that, in Calvinism, if God doesn't fully orchestrate/control evil, then it must mean He is totally absent and uninvolved in it, totally out of control.  A false dichotomy, presenting those as the only two ways God could possibly operate in the universe.)

... God is running the universe, and He knows what He's doing, even if we're absolutely confused and grieving at the moment... God ultimately allowed and orchestrated these disasters.  [To most people, "allows" and "orchestrates" are not the same thing, but to Calvinists, they are.  In Calvinism, God "allows" only what He preplans and orchestrates, exactly as it happens, even things He commands us not to do.  Calvinists contradict the basic commonsense understanding of "allows," and so it's deceptive whenever they use that word.]

... God doesn't want to get off the hook... In the end, the devil is God's devil.  Satan is a puny pawn in the hand of an almighty, holy God.  And even though he thinks he's waging war, in the end he will find out he did exactly as God sovereignly decreed, under God's sovereign decree.  And that God is good and Satan is evil.  [And we're supposed to just believe you!?!  At least with Satan, we know what we're getting; we expect him to be evil, a liar, a deceiver, a trickster, an instigator of and encourager of evil and abuse and violence, to be delighted with sin, to want people into hell, etc.  We know not to trust him.  But with Calvinism's god, we're told that he's good and righteous and just and that we need to trust him, even though he says one thing but means another, has the same desires as Satan (wanting sin and people in hell, being glorified by sin and by having people in hell), and is ultimately no different than Satan on the inside because he's behind everything Satan does.😕😖]

... Now I don't know how to put all that together [because his theology is wrong!] and it gives me a headache, but I do know that if your theology doesn't give you a headache sometimes, it's probably a product of your own creation."  [Gaslighting - trying to trick you into shutting off your alarm bells and accepting something you know sounds wrong.  And trying to convince you that if you disagree with him, then you're not believing the Bible but making up your own stuff.  "Shame, shame on you!"]

(a trick question)

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Good stuff, huh?  Let's keep going...

Here are a few more sermons that aren't on the anniversaries of 9-11 or about 9-11 directly, but that are about God causing all evils/tragedies and controlling all wicked people, causing them to do what they do.

4. His October 27, 2019 sermon on forgiveness: "How you handle and respond to mistreatment - when someone has hurt you, wounded you, lied about you, betrayed you, abused you - or me - how I respond directly reflects what I really believe about God deep down inside.  The ability to forgive...requires a proper understanding of who God is and His providence in our lives - it's critical - and of God's authority in your life.... One of the things the Puritans got really, really well was God's providence, God's sovereignty, God's authority... They understood that God sovereignly chooses to use evil people and sinful people in our lives as believers, if we know Christ, ON PURPOSE to humble us and teach us dependence on Him... God is orchestrating events and He's still sovereign over the process... Biblical forgiveness is an affirmation that God is good and that He has A RIGHT to use ANYBODY in our lives for His purpose, His glory, and for our good."

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5. His March 2, 2014 sermon about finding hope in hard times: God is on the throne!  Random evil doesn’t just happen to people.  Random loss doesn’t just occur in our lives.  God is in control of each aspect of every detail, right down to our salvation, right down to our health, and jobs, and employment, and our spouse and our children and our livelihood.

… God is sovereign over history… Arthur Pink wrote a book called The Sovereignty of God, and he said that the sovereignty of God – His absolute control of every atom of the universe - is designed to inspire hope… Random evil doesn’t just occur.  God is sovereign over history.… God is sovereign over our losses…  No matter what God has taken away from us, God is sovereign over loss.

... We want to get God off the hook, saying 'God didn’t do this.'...and every time we try to, God puts Himself back on the hook in the Bible and says, 'Yes, I did!'  

… God is sovereign over those who seek to harm us.  Who of us hasn’t been harmed by somebody?... We’ve had people betray, lie, steal, vilify, slander, and do unspeakable things to us.  Some of us have undergone horrific abuse at the hands of parents or aunts or uncles or brothers.  God is sovereign over those who seek to harm us.... That means, friends, that there is no such thing as random evil or random acts of tragedy. 

 

By the way, I think that those who get this best are the English Puritans… they understood about God using evil people in our lives...that God does it for a reason, for example, to bring us to faith in Christ, or to refine us, or to help us become holy, or to strip us of pride, or to be able to comfort others who’ve gone through similar circumstances.  [I wonder what his reason is for "using" evil in the lives of the non-elect, if it's not to refine them or bring them to faith or comfort them?😕]

... John Flavel in The Mystery of God’s Providence says '… In all the sad and afflictive providences that befall you, eye God as the author.  Set before you the sovereignty of God…'  Amen!?!”  [No!  Not Amen!  Not with the way Calvinists define sovereignty.  Sicko!] 

[He loves the Puritans and repeatedly quotes from them as though they were theological experts we need to emulate.  But did you know that essentially every Puritan ended up dying in terror, not knowing for sure if they were truly saved or not?  See Andy Woods' sermon Neo-Calvinism vs. The Bible, starting at the 46:00 minute-mark.]

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6. His August 23, 2015 sermon about God "ordaining" suffering: "[Some people] say that evil and suffering are the result of [free-will choices]... [But] we have to conclude that God is in full control of [he means "controls"] every detail of the universe, including the suffering, evil, and tragedy in our lives...[and that] God is good.

... The Puritans remind us that we don't need to get God off the hook when it comes to evil and suffering... [We] rush to get God off the hook for human suffering [by saying things like] 'Well, this is not what He really intended; this is not really Plan A.'... And every time we do that, God puts Himself back on the hook and says, 'I am in charge, thank you, and I will run the universe as I see fit, and I don't owe you an explanation.'

... Are you trusting God in the midst of your past, present, and future in whatever He has ordained and appointed for you as far as suffering, tragedy, abuse, or trials or difficulties or illness or disease or betrayal?... Or are you murmuring against Him?... Do you perhaps need to repent of your murmuring...and surrender today and say 'Lord, I don't understand the way You run the universe, and I don't necessarily like it, but You're God and You're good.'  It'll make all the difference in your path to healing.  All the difference.

[This was the sermon when I knew I was done with that man, that pastor, that church!  And yet we were there for four more years before we left (but I sat in the lobby and read) - until his "babies go to hell" sermon in 2019.  We resigned the next week.]

... Some of our hearts this morning are breaking.  Find refuge and hope in a good and holy God who says 'I have all things under My control.  Everything that's going on in your life, or has gone on in your life, or will, I know about and have ordained for you.  And you can find comfort and hope and trust Me.'"

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7. His August 2022 sermon on suffering and God's love: "[Atheists] argue that the sheer amount of suffering, brutality, carnage, violence, and misery on our planet rule out a loving God... [But] what is the Bible's perspective on God and suffering?

... #1) God is good* all the time... Our God is a loving God and He is good* to the core of His being, no matter what happens in the world... He is good* and even what He does is good*, even when cancer strikes, even when I'm lied about, even when we lose a child, lose a job, lose a dream, tragedy strikes, we lose somebody we love.  God is good*.  [The Puritans] say that the real question is not 'Why do we suffer so much?'  The biblical question is 'In light of our rebellion, why is God so good* to us?' [Deflection.]

... #2) God is all-wise, all-knowing, and all-powerful, and He doesn't owe us any explanations... [God's] providence means He's all-powerful, all-wise, and He governs all things... But providence is more than God just having advanced knowledge... God's providence means His sovereign, wise leading and active directing of all things for His glory, and of all events, everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly.  

Friends, this is tonic to a weary soul, to know that a good* God is all-wise and all-powerful, that whatever He's doing, no matter how much I'm confused by it, is ultimately being done for my good and His glory, even when the timing of what He's doing results in painful circumstances, in sorrow, in weeping, in heartache, in loss.

... If you're in the midst of deep water right now, pain, suffering, a season of grief and loss, are you trusting God with your pain and suffering?  Are you rejoicing or are you murmuring?... The Bible reminds us that God is good*, and fully in control of everything, the good, the bad, and the ugly.  What sustains true born-again Christians in the face of horrific natural and moral evils is not explanations but God's promises."  

[*Notice in his sermons how many times he calls Calvinism's god "good."  The fact that he has to stress this so much tells us that he knows Calvi-god doesn't sound good at all, that he sounds very evil.  And I have a few questions: What does "good" mean when it acts just like evil?  Where is the line between good and evil, God and Satan, when they look and act the same?  How much more would it take for Calvi-god to become a bad, evil god... or is any level of evil okay simply because he's "God"?  And what kind of a god is glorified, anyway, by causing evils, not just glorified in spite of evil, but by it?  And would you trust a god who commands us not to do evil but also predestines, orchestrates, causes all the evil we do and who will then punish us for it?  Should we trust a god like that?  Why?]

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8. His Christmas season sermon - Hallelujah, Merry Christmas! - December 8, 2024 ("Merry Christmas to all you people who are hurting because of the evil done to you!  May you take comfort in knowing that God planned it and caused it all!"): 

"[The early church believers] knew God was King.  They knew He was in control.  They knew He was Lord of history, so that even when they saw evil leaders doing evil things, they didn't panic and collapse in fear and terror.  They knew He was in control of even over the choices of evil leaders.  He was guiding them to do His Will.  That's why you notice that Herod and Pilate did exactly what God had ordained them to do, and yet the Bible tells us that they're still guilty.  [They're guilty because they chose to be the way they are.  God did not preplan or cause them to be that way.  He let them be that way, knew they would be that way, and so He knew how He could work it into His plans, their self-chosen personality and decisions.]

Martin Luther had a great comment about this in his book Bondage of the Will.  He says, quote - this is interesting to ponder - 'God is good and cannot do evil.'  Because you might wonder 'How can these people be guilty when it says right here that all the evil things they did, it was God's plan.'  Luther says 'God is good and cannot do evil, but He uses evil men who cannot escape the impulse and movement of His power.  [And yet Calvinists cry "We don't say people are robots controlled by God!"  Hogwash!]  And yet when they do the very evil they're planning after being moved by God, it's their fault, not His.'  [But biblically, God didn't plan to make them be evil or do evil.  He just foreknew they would be evil people who wanted to do evil things, and so He planned to put it to good use, incorporating their self-chosen evil into His plans.]


[In the service I didn't quote from - I think I quoted from the first service, so this would be the second service - he added that Luther is "the great German reformer.  Luther is always such a very perceptive biblical commentator.  He and other reformers were glued to the text, and they taught the Scriptures, and they preached the Scriptures."  My ex-pastor quotes from this theological hero of his - the "great" Martin Luther - all the time, as all Calvinist pastors do, to promote their Calvinist views and agenda.  Yet it's funny that in all those quotes, I've never heard him quote from Luther's highly antisemitic book The Jews and Their Lies.  Hmm?  Interesting.  And ironically enough, do you know who else quoted Luther, using Luther's teachings to promote his views and agenda too?  Hitler.  Watch this video from Andy Woods to learn more: Neo-Calvinism vs. The Bible #4.]

And then the pastor makes a "mind blown/totally baffled" gesture here, and says:  

But that's what the text says.  I don't determine what the text says by 'I don't like that.  That doesn't make sense.  I don't know what to do with that.'  I have to go 'That's clearly what the text says.'  [But what isn't clearly taught is Calvinism's unbiblical idea that because God foreknew what happens, it must mean that He preplanned it to happen that way and then caused it to happen that way, giving no one the ability or chance to choose to do otherwise.] 

And it reminds me that God is much more complex than I am.  And I hope He is, 'cuz I'm a simple man.  I hope God's a lot more complex than I am.  I hope He gives me a headache sometimes when it comes to my theology.  I hope there are times when I get indigestion.  There should be!  [Gaslighting, making you distrust your own judgment and the alarm bells going off in your spirit about what he's preaching!  And it's funny - and telling - that the only times they talk about "headache theology," about not being able to understand God and His ways, is when they're teaching that God predestines all sin and evil and unbelief but that He holds people accountable for it.  Isn't it kinda strange that the only doctrines we have no ability to understand - and so we must simply trust the Calvinist teachers and accept what they say - is their worst, most God-damaging doctrines!?!]  

Because if He's the living God, there's a lot of things that are taking place that we will never understand, and it is far more complex than we are. [Translation: "So don't bother trying to think too much about what I'm teaching you.  Just accept it, even if you can't understand it and it bothers you immensely!"  The same old manipulation he's been doing since the very beginning, the first things to alert me that something must be very wrong with him and his theology.]  

... Providence - God's loving, sovereign jurisdiction over the world - [is] a reminder that no matter what you're facing today or what you will face tomorrow or this coming year, no matter what you're going through, your Father has everything on schedule, on time, in place... This is a huge source of encouragement to true Christians.  And it's a robust confidence that God...is...on...the...throne!  

... Lorraine Boettner says 'Amid all the apparent defeats and inconsistencies of life, God actually moves on in undisturbed majesty.' ... To the child of God that is precious.  And the more we are hurting, the more we are going through, the more we are feeling loss or chronic pain or loneliness or grief or sorrow or discouragement or depression, the more precious that is.


... [He goes on to preach that there's hope for any person, that any person can be forgiven, no matter the evil they've done.  (He does not mean there's hope for any and every person, just that "there's hope for the elect - and since we don't know who the elect are, then anyone out there could be one of the elect whom God will cause to repent.  But everyone else is hopeless.")  Interesting!  Because he just went on and on about how all the evil we do is planned by God, carried out by God, caused by God.  And yet now God will "forgive" it.  He "forgives" what He first planned and causes.  And yet Calvinists can't see the damage this does to God's character, to His goodness, trustworthiness, justice, glory, etc.  Ridiculous!  And now comes two new bolder claims he makes that I'm sure most people will miss...]  

... There is hope because once the believer places his trust in Christ [Hmm?  So they're "believers" before they trust in Christ?  So only "believers" can trust in Christ?  Yes, in Calvinism, that would be "the elect, those already saved before the beginning of time."], Christ's perfect moral record is charged to, credited to, imputed to my account.  That is why Christ first lived for the believer, and then died for the believer, and was resurrected for the believer!  [I bet most people who aren't aware of his brand of theology will miss the fact that he means "for only the believer (the elect)!"  He said it exactly as he meant it, that Christ's death and forgiveness is only for the Calvi-elect believers!] 

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9. And finally, his June 26, 2022 sermon about Joseph and forgiveness: "Today we are going to be talking about one of the hardest things a human being can be called on to do, and that is to forgive someone who's abused them.  Some of you have been horrifically abused and treated horribly by somebody... And the question is 'How do you forgive them?'... Some of us are sitting here today and the pain is so very deep about the way we've been treated by somebody... physically abused, verbally abused, emotionally abused, lied about, oppressed, taken advantage of, wrongly blamed... and here's the decision we face: 'Will I become bitter and hold a grudge, or will I choose to forgive and let it go?'  

And here's the key: My choice at that point - how I choose to respond to someone who has abused me - shows what I really think about God... All of our bitterness is ultimately traceable to resentment of God.  Why?  Because it was God who brought these circumstances into our lives in the first place, painful as they may be.

... And if I'm going to say 'I will not forgive this person. I'm going to hold it over their head,' then what I'm saying is 'No matter what You decided, Lord, no matter how You arranged this, You're the one that's guilty.  And I am bitter and resentful towards God.'

... [Then he talks about the evils and abuse Joseph faced in the Bible and says:] It doesn't just say God used it for good.  No!  God arranged this for good... '[God] ordained the whole process.'... God is fully sovereign and in control, and He is good..."

[Once again: Where in Calvinism is the line between good and evil?  When "good" looks and acts just like evil, can it still be "good"?  How close does "good" have to get to evil before it stops being good and starts being evil?  Or is any amount of evil okay for Calvi-god because Calvinists still call him a "good god" no matter what he does?  So while it might be evil if someone else does it, it's always "good" when he does it, just because?😕😖]



Bonus note about C.S. Lewis: 

Contrary to Calvinists who say that whatever Calvi-god does - even sin and evil - is just and good just because he causes it, C.S. Lewis (love him!) says this in The Problem of Pain, chapter 6: 

"It has sometimes been asked whether God commands certain things because they are right, or whether certain things are right because God commands them... I emphatically embrace the first alternative.  The second might lead to the abominable conclusion...that charity is good only because God arbitrarily commanded it - that He might equally well have commanded us to hate Him and one another and that hatred would then have been right.  I believe, on the contrary, that 'they err who think that of the will of God to do this or that there is no reason besides His will.'  God's will is determined by His wisdom which always perceives, and His goodness which always embraces, the intrinsically good.  But when we have said that God commands things only because they are good, we must add that one of the things intrinsically good is that rational creatures should freely surrender themselves to their Creator in obedience.  The content of our obedience - the thing we are commanded to do - will always be something intrinsically good, something we ought to do even if (by an impossible supposition) God had not commanded it."  

Lewis is saying that he disagrees (with Calvinism's view) that God commands everything, even sin and evil, and that it then becomes "good" simply because He commands it (and other words Calvinism uses: "decrees, ordains, causes, wills, controls, etc.").  

He believes that God commands what's intrinsically good, that first God knows/sees what's good and then He commands it because it's good, not the other way around as Calvinists say.  Something doesn't become good just because God commands/causes/wills it.  It either is or isn't good, and God commands what's good.  And just because He allows people to disobey His commands, make bad decisions, and resist His Will doesn't make it "good/God's Will."  It just makes it sin and contrary to His Will.  

And Lewis disagrees that God's Will is the only thing God bases His decisions on, which is something Calvinists say which allows them to call any evil or sin that Calvi-god wills/does/causes "good and just," simply because they call it "his will".

John Calvin (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God): ... how foolish and frail [it is to suggest] that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission... Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them... God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for his mercy's sake, or to evil according to their merits... Of all the things which happen, the first cause is to be understood to be His will, because He so governs the natures created by Him, as to determine all the counsels and the actions of men to the end decreed by Him..."

John Calvin (Institutes of the Christian Religion, book 1): "... [God's will is] the most perfect cause of all things..."  

R.C. Sproul Jr. (Almighty Over All): “God wills all things that come to pass" 

Gordon H. Clark (Religion, Reason, and Revelation): “I wish very frankly and pointedly to assert that if a man gets drunk and shoots his family, it was the will of God that he should do it… Let it be unequivocally said that this view certainly makes God the cause of sin. God is the sole ultimate cause of everything…”

But contrary to this, Lewis says that God bases His Will not on an arbitrary Will, but on what's intrinsically good.  And so therefore, intrinsically bad things are not His Will (even though He can and does work our self-made bad decisions and sins into His plans for good).

And he also notes that having the freedom to choose to surrender to God is an intrinsically good thing too - an affirmation of free-will, a strike against Calvinism.  

And furthermore, contrary to Calvinists who try to excuse their idea that it's okay for God to cause sin and evil by saying that God and humans view things differently... and that because of our limitations, we mere humans can't really tell the difference between good and evil (and so what's evil in our eyes might actually be good in God's eyes, according to them, even if He commands against it in His Word)... Lewis (love him, love him, love him!) says this in chapter 2: 

"if God's moral judgment differs from ours so that our 'black' may be His 'white,' we can mean nothing by calling Him good; for to say 'God is good,' while asserting that His goodness is wholly other than ours, is really only to say 'God is we know not what'.  And an utterly unknown quality in God cannot give us moral grounds for loving or obeying Him.  If He is not (in our sense) 'good' we shall obey, if at all, only through fear - and should be equally ready to obey an omnipotent Fiend.  The doctrine of Total Depravity - when the consequence is drawn that, since we are totally depraved, our idea of good is simply nothing - may thus turn Christianity into a form of devil-worship."  

Amen and amen!

If there is no real, clear dividing line between true good and true evil - if (as Calvinism claims) good can be evil and evil can be good, and whatever God does becomes good even if it's evil - then we cannot call anything good or evil, and we cannot even call God Himself good.  

"Good" loses all meaning when it looks and acts just like evil or when it's used as an excuse for evil.  The words "good and evil" become meaningless when they can mean the same as their opposites.

Calvinism erases the line between good and evil, which essentially erases the line between God and Satan, lowering God to Satan's level and, consequently, elevating Satan to God's level.  (And who do you think benefits from this?  I'll give you a hint: 😈)

[Lewis is most definitely not a Calvinist.  And he even often emphatically opposes Calvinism.  And this makes me wonder why in the world Calvinists - even my ex-pastor - keep quoting him!?!  Strange!]

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