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"But predestination!" (#16A: God's Will, babies)

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[ Update: To make this shorter and easier for you, I moved the second half of this post - the bulk of the Calvinist quotes about God ordaining sin, evil, and suffering - to the next post .  And I added a #17 too, about Calvinist double-speak and the gospel.] This is almost the last post in a series where I examine some things my Calvinist ex-pastor preached about predestination.   Click on these for  the pastor's sermons  ("When Calvinists say 'But predestination!'"), and my comments  1-4 (election)  and  5-6 (Romans and sovereignty)  and  7-9 (depravity, Book of Life, predestine)  and  10-11 (shaming tactics, Feb. 2015)  and  12-14 (dead, regeneration, born again)  and  15 (total depravity, manipulation)  and   16B (sin, evil, suffering)  and   17 (double-speak and the gospel) . I'm planning to put out a very short version of this post sometime in the future (and maybe one more I've got in mind, and I might add new comments to this post as I find them),